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    Dev: Ripped by the Riftworld

    Post by Ippy on Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:18 pm

    ***BEWARE: MASSIVE RAMBLING***

    I’m currently working on (actually I’m basically done with) a campaign where we play ourselves in a fantasy setting. It would have lots of numbers and stat stuff, and would focus not on role-play but on strategy and ability growth. It would play much like Advanced Wars (it draws heavily from Fire Emblem, if you know the series), and we would make use of excel as a combat grid.

    In terms of how turns would work, each hour your character will generate X action points which are spent to do stuff. However, doing the same action twice will double the AP cost of that action (so you can’t do nothing for X days and then come in and spam 8 attacks, but your stored AP won’t go to waste either). At certain times of the day actions will revert to their base AP cost, starting the process over again. We will call these times the start of ‘rounds.’ Additionally, you will be able to sit fights out that you don’t think you’ll be too active in (yet still gain xp).

    One of my main concerns is the split between RPG aspects and straight gameplay. For instance, after a battle was complete I (as GM) could post a short narrative of conversation and jump directly into the next area (or present the option of where to go to the players). During the narrative I would control what player characters did and said (bad) in order to maintain flow. As not to be completely disruptive, I would probably allow some time for players to respond to the narrative. Even so, it would still be disruptive and I’m not sure that this is the best way to conduct matters. I’m shaky on this method, so I would love to hear your opinion.

    One thing I want to try with this game is party-scope leveling. In other words, each player is responsible for leveling up all characters, whether or not it’s their character. This would work like so: Player A’s avatar/character kills a rat and gains 10xp. He however, gains 10xp for each member in the party and must spend it on the other members. So he puts 10xp into his damage, 10xp into Player B’s damage, and 10xp into Player C’s HP cause C is an idiot and puts everything into critical hits. Player B could then spend 10xp into Player A’s damage, and if the damage upgrade cost 20xp, Player A would receive higher damage. This system is pretty much non-negotiable, so I’m just letting you know it’s in place. Let me know if you have any concerns though.

    Because we are playing ourselves, our characters would reflect us. In-game there are six attributes (prowess, toughness, agility, luck, magic, charisma), however they have no set bonus. Instead, each character would receive different benefits from another character from the same attribute. For instance, if Ethan put a point into toughness and I put a point into toughness, you can bet Ethan will be getting more HP than me. However, I might gain some other benefit he doesn’t. Naturally, each character will favor some attributes over others, though each will remain important.

    Additionally, you would only be able to advance to (5?) of 14 base classes that I (as GM) believed fit you. The available base classes (there higher versions of class, like prestige classes) would both be based on your attribute strengths, what I thought you might like, and what you seem to fit. I would have no problem negotiating the available classes individually, though it may be difficult from a statistical sense. And of course, certain character-class combinations would be OP, considering how classes modify attribute costs and all characters have different attribute effects.

    I promise that I will never give you a bad choice to choose from, however some classes you will inevitably fill out better than others (and I won’t tell which if I notice). On this note, I would like to mention that this game will be horribly imbalanced, I expect to tweak it as we go. However, it is my hope that the game is variable enough (like MTG) so that even what seems worse is actually the best possible thing in certain situations, so that what might appear to be a poorly developed character still would shine.

    The game would take place in the Shardlands: flickering, fleeting fragments of existence orbiting the Riftworld, a celestial construct composed nearly entirely of dark matter and things of things which are not understood. The estranged Riftworld would cast its impressions upon the Shardlands, which in turn would experience a whimsical form of physics. Unlike Earth the laws of nature would not remain static, but instead be ever-changing. Tacticians of the Shardlands always keep at the back of their mind that the rules of conflict might change, sound and gravity inverting their directional axis. It’s a basic concept for archers to walk up a cliff, march upside-down on the roof of a shard (island-thing), and then fire up at the enemy below them. Of course, the presence of magic-users capable of manipulating the Shardlands’ loose reality makes this a dangerous stratagem.

    On the note of difficulty, I am Blaize, so I will make it challenging. I will follow the traditional learning curve, but eventually you’ll feel that your enemy and nature itself seemed to have been designed with your strengths and weaknesses in mind. As (and if) new players enter, I may or may not tone it down to give the party some breathing room to adjust the new player. Your character will be stronger than the average peep (in fact you begin with the ‘Unknown’ feat), but it follows that you will fight what others cannot due to your superiority. If your character dies, I will apply permanent, drastic penalties as to encourage smart play, however over the course of play you will likely gain underlings with 100% expendability. Death, unfortunately, is permanent for them. And, as a final point, it will be really easy for things to die, meaning who can hit what will be incredibly important (and archers should scare you).

    But now for my major question. When and should I start this? Do we have the ability to run 3 games? Do I have the ability to GM two? Should we wait for one to finish, or do I start immediately? We could quit western (and Blaize stores that somewhere hopefully without being sad), and we could also semi-start this one (meaning we prepare as it will take time for me to make each player’s character statistically) and see where the interest goes. Priority could be given to one game, and if it proves too difficult we can pause/quit one. Considering the AP system, this game could be given a slow pace to manage and modified as needed.


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    Post by Elit3Fla5h on Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:10 pm

    I think we could do like five at once btw so three is no problem in my opinion soooo start it now.


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    Post by Ippy on Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:33 pm

    GMing is hard, and I don't think I could handle 5. I guess I could always drop out though...
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    Post by Elit3Fla5h on Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:34 pm

    I didnt mean you gm all 5. You think you could do 2?


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    Post by Ippy on Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:50 pm

    No, lol, I meant GM 2 might even be much. I really don't know, I like to put a lot of thought into it and I'm in Smittcamp. My brain can only scatter over so much.
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    Post by Elit3Fla5h on Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:57 pm

    I believe in you!


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    Post by Ippy on Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:50 am

    Right, well I guess then i'd want a list of who would join so I could start on the stat stuffs and discuss class options. So if you'd play, could you put your name up please?
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    Post by LokiLeader on Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:57 am

    Ich will spielen!


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    Post by Elit3Fla5h on Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:34 pm

    Watashi wa purē shitai!


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    Post by Ippy on Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:19 pm

    Oh, and post any prefrences or things you like't to see in your character or even another player's character (a tough guy, master wizard, etc) if such things exist.
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    Post by Elit3Fla5h on Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:27 pm

    I want to be a Hand to Hand specialist!


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    Post by Ippy on Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:31 pm

    Ethan, I pretty much have your classes down perfectly. You'll have a tough choice when you read the descriptions.
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    Post by LokiLeader on Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:06 pm

    Stealth. If possible something like active camo. If stealth isnt a good option then a bow or animal tamer type thing would be nice.


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    Post by Ippy on Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:44 pm

    Why do you say bow? And stealth, really? That surprises me.
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    Post by FrenchPopo on Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:20 pm

    This sounds very interesting. Smile

    I love both the Fire Emblem and Advanced Wars series. Hope your runs go smoothly so you could start one with more people. Very Happy


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    Post by LokiLeader on Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:35 pm

    I meant that i want bows to be the weapon of choice, you know, for muah and if not then an animal tamer aspect for meself.


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    Post by Ippy on Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:25 pm

    I'm also trying to match play styles, which is why am able to nail Elite down so easy. I try to think of what you like, pick classes that can match, than make stats captialize the aspects of the class that fit the playstyle and/or you. So between you two this is my brainstorming so far:

    Elite:
    Annoying, mess with 'em
    Indirect, alternate win con
    Heart the ability to tank
    run in and not care
    Stupid but works

    Loki:
    played up hype
    badass/ generally good
    take the time to build something amazing
    savior, often unexpected
    screw it all! SELFDESTRUCT
    take it for the team

    none of the base bow classes fit that kinda play, so not a primary weapon, however stealth is a possible path of one, and beastmaster i already tagged you for, though once again not the 'primary.' Would you like me to make modifications? I suppose, hmmmm... *goes off wandering*


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    Post by Elit3Fla5h on Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:29 pm

    I resent half of what you said about me!
    What I do is not stupid! Its just simple and straight forward that it messes with people that think to much and expect epic things!


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    Post by LokiLeader on Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:32 am

    I do often take time to build up something amazing... and I do like blowing myself up to save others....


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    Post by Rock'emSock'emRabbi on Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:23 am

    Oooh!!! Do Me! Do Me!


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    Post by Elit3Fla5h on Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:13 pm

    when does this start?


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    Post by Ippy on Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:59 pm

    Awhh, Ethan, you really think I could insult you? I'm insulted. Translate 'stupid but works' as 'the effective lol method' or as 'picks a bard with full luck options' or 'the most effective combat non-combat character by kicking everyone in the nads.'

    I'll work on the OOC in a bit. I'm hoping for more peeps though, I'll prolly advertise. Its just, I have to type ruleish stuff, blech.

    @Rockem:: So when do you want me over? Lol (<- it feels wierd to have to put this to signify a joke). Anyway, my attempt as follows, though really I don't feel confident:

    Rockem:
    Concerned with the interests of friends
    Even so, introverted in own plan a bit
    Recognizes defensive strength before offensive
    Stupid, doesn't have to work. The stupid is what matters.
    More 'artistic' in play (<--don't try to define that, I can't say it right yet)
    instigation, possibly? not sure there.

    EDIT:: Having trouble with Rockem's guy. Any prefrences?
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    Post by Boxpopper on Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:08 pm

    Me plz? I've been thinking about a character since the last RP (which I totally missed obviously). I've been trying to go for a priest/monk type character, maybe with a dark past concerning the destruction and torture of heretics, that he's trying to get over and absolve his sins.

    EDIT: Unless this is a more modern setting, in which case I will scrap that idea and make something else. I apologize for not reading the intro post. Will go do that now.

    EDIT: Ok yeah. Forget that idea completely. It's just Nathan this time. Lol sorry for puking my fail all over this forum. Give the word (Blaize, not Ethan, cus he'll actually do it) and I shall end my life.
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    Post by LokiLeader on Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:04 pm

    Medical basd sounds like one of the best options for me. That and a secret weapon of near ultimate power.


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    Post by Boxpopper on Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:09 pm

    Give me a strange book written in a language I can't understand, but I woke up once with it laying on my chest and whenever it's taken away from me my mind becomes unstable (so I carry it around and part of my character development has to do with figuring out what the hell is going on with the book).

    Ian will remember this. Just watch.

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